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Dit Names – Michel Robineau dit Desmoulins

The “Dit” Names
Michel Robineau dit Desmoulins

I have been looking recently into why our first ancestor to Canada (around 1700) (for most of us Robineau’s) chose Desmoulins as is “nom de guerre” (Michel Robineau dit Desmoulins). I have several theories at the moment, which do you like best?   You can also feel free to provide new ones.
The other interesting fact is that while Michel’s children would be Robineau dit Desmoulins, over time some kept the Robineau name and others kept the Desmoulins/Dumoulin name. So, we have “Desmoulins/Dumoulin relatives out there who have a common link with Michel Robineau dit Desmoulins.

But first here is a little background on “Dit: names.

“Dit” names have many origins. Many were originally the “nom de guerre” adopted by the troops in a specific military company.
The French word dit translates in English to the word ‘said’. What does this mean?, well, different things to different researchers. The term dit to some researchers is translated to a.k.a., also known as; to some it translates as ‘nickname’; some translate it as ‘alias’; while others translates it as ‘distinguisher’.

The most popular explanation is that the French in New France took or were given a dit name as a way to distinguish themselves from one another.

Dit names where an additional name given or taken by someone by which they were or could be also known as. This practise was historically used by the French and the Scots.

As in most things dealing with history, the question as to why the French followed the practise of using a dit name is controversial. The reason it is controversial is that there does not appear to be any hard and fast rules as to when and why people followed this practise. Here are some of the common reasons dit names where given or used:

To distinguish one person or family from another
To demonstrate the point – in a small town there are two John Smiths who happen to be cousins therefore, they come from the same immediate family. Both are tailors, which is the family business. To distinguish one from the other, one of them added to his name John Smith dit Taylor meaning John Smith the tailor. The other changed his name to John Smith dit Tremblay because he lived near a grove of Aspens. Aspen wood in French is Tremblay. Distinguishing between the two would have no longer posed a problem.

Soldiers – Decreed by law
It is often said that dit names were given to soldiers in New France to distinguish one from another with-in the same troupe. Soldiers under one commander might have been given dit names which all began with a particular letter of the alphabet, such as in the Dugre Company – the soldiers were given dit names that all began with the letter D; another troupe might have all had names of parts of the body. Between 1764 and 1768 the soldiers from the Casaux company where all given dit names of vegetables, such as Lalétue, Lachicorée, and Lecerfeuil and so on.

The dit name was an identifier. One would know immediately which troupe someone belonged to because of the types of dit names given.

In 1716 it became a requirement that all soldiers be given a dit name. What is most interesting is that in New France a dit name could be passed down from father to son and often was. On the other hand, this was not done in France. A soldier’s dit name in France was a personal thing. The son would not have taken his father’s dit name.

Was it a peculiarity of the French military?  Maybe it was to help identify soldiers, but if so, why did the English not have them.  They would need some like “Smith dit …”  or “White dit…”, etc.

To pay respect
Some people took the family name of the person who raised them. There were a fair number of casual adoptions in the 1600 to 1800 hundreds often due to the mother dying during the birth of one of her children. It wouldn’t have been uncommon for a woman to have taken-in the child or children of her dead sister for instance. The child would, according to French law, have kept their family name but often would tack on their adoptive father’s last name as a dit name.

To show where one came from
The standard prefix in a French name showing origin or referring to a place is ‘de’ as in Jacques de St. Dennis which means Jack from St. Dennis. However, some people in New France would add a dit name and not a de name of a place or location such as Henry Beauclerc dit Normandie who was the son of William the Conqueror.

Paying religious homage
The population in New France was Catholic. Non-catholics were not allowed into the colony. The first and only – attested to – Jewish person to set foot in New France was 20-year-old Esther Brandeau; she actually entered the colony disguised as a boy named Jacques La Fague. It was not long before she was found out. She was given every opportunity to convert which she refused, so she was sent back to France. There was a Jewish person who was hired by the Hudson Bay Company, Ferdinande Jacobs, and came to Canada in 1732. However, Hudson Bay was under England’s rule and not a part of New France; therefore, in this case, Ferdinande was allowed to stay.

In 1627 the Catholic missionaries in New France were concerned that some Huguenots were making their way into Acadia and convinced Cardinal Richelieu to add a clause to the charter of the Company of New France which said that the only people who could settle in New France were “natural-born French Catholics”.

Some people took dit names as a way to pay homage to their favourite saint such as François St-Jean or Michel St-Pierre and the like.

The above description was primarily taken from:

In the mid-1800’s the “Dit” names seem to fall out of style.  Why?
The dit names started disappearing around the time of the Confederation (1867) in official records (i.e. census) without any law being passed to this effect. All records were kept by the clergy in Quebec at that time (baptism in lieu of birth record) no civil marriages.. Instructions were sent by bishops to parish priests to discontinue the use of dit names and to uniformise family surname usage (at least that is the theory).  And in 1850, that method would have been very effective.

But now, back to the question.  How did Michel get the “Desmoulins” “dit” name.

It was randomly allocated to him by his military superiors;
Could be, but that would cut this discussion pretty short and not be as much fun.

2) It represents his character, perhaps he was a “Don Quixote” type;
Was he an adventurous guy.  Based on the research done to date he seems to have been a farmer living around Montreal, not exactly Quixotic.

3) He grew up in a neighbourhood called “Desmoulins”
Not as far-fetched as it seems.  Michel was baptized at St. Roch church in Paris.  Around the St. Roch church there used to be a hill that was actually leveled  about 20 years before he was born. That hill was called “Butte des Moulins”.  So growing up they might still have been calling the area Butte Des Mounlins.  It is not a big leap to Michel choosing Des Moulins as his nom de guerre.
This is my favourite explanation.
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4) He was a fan of a Desmoulins.
There was a Desmoulins who was popular in the late 1600’s around Paris and he chose that name .
This was a great possibility fro about ten minutes.  I thought he might have taken the name of one of the three leaders of the French Revolution (Camille Desmoulins) becasue he was a fan. Unfortumately, the French Revolution happened 60 years after Michel Robineau dit Desmoulins died in 1737.

5) That is where he came from.
Michel was baptized at St. Roch parish in Paris, but that does not mean he came from Paris.

There is actually a town in France called Esmoulins. Is it possible that although Michel may have been born in Paris his family may have been from Esmoulins (about three hours from Paris). Thus Michel Robineau from Esmoulins would be Michel Robineau de Esmoulins or Michel Robineau d”esmoulins (Desmoulins). It is a stretch since in the 1600?s people did not generally move very far from where they were born..

Of course, Esmoulins is 3 hours from Paris… today!.  The distance is about 300 kilometers.  Travelling 300 kilometers in the mid 1600?s would have been considerably more than three hours of travel.  This might be a case of “Theory…Busted”

6) It was a landmark near where he lived in Nouvelle France
This was another promising theory for about twenty minutes.  Michel’s farm was around Montreal and his military unit may have been in Terreborne (north east of Montreal).  In Terreborne there is an island called “Ile des Moulins”.  Sounds great, but my research indicates that the island did not get named Ile des Moulins until the 1800’s.

Feel free to suggest other theories.

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Leonel Robineau

Leonel Robineau
(Son of Damasse)
(Summary of his life – Will be updated as more information is found)

Leonel Robineau was born in 1892, in Ripon Quebec and died in1964. He is apparently buried in the cemetery in Timmins Ontario.

Leonel was my grandfather. I never met him. Leda, his wife is buried in the Sturgeon Falls cemetery.

Leonel married on July 7, 1914 to Leda Mallette in Montpellier Quebec. The parish was Notre Dame de la Consolation.

Leonel and Leda had nine children:

Leo Paul Aurel Anatole: Born March 10, 1915 at Notre Dame de la Consolation Parish in Montpellier Quebec.

Leona: Born 1916. Married Antoine Pose on May 16, 1933 at Sacre Coeur Parish in Sturgeon Falls. Re-married to John Leonard Vandette.

Henri: Born February 1918 in Sturgeon Falls. Died May 20, 1919 at 15 months from Pneumonia – Sacre Coeur Parish Sturgeon Falls.

Guillaume: “Willie” – Born August 31, 1919 in Sturgeon Falls and died January 11, 1924 of “Croup” in Sturgeon Falls.

Gilberte Anita Elianne: Born February 20, 1921 in Sturgeon Falls in Sacre Coeur parish.
Married Paul Racette on April 18, 1937 at Sacre Coeur Parish in Sturgeon Falls. In early 50’s married Calvin Salem in Sudbury. Died in early 80’s.

Joseph Gilbert Euclide Rheal: Born August 31, 1922 and died on February 26th 1944 in a bombing run over Augsburg Germany.

Joseph Emmanuel Adrien: Born April 30, 1924 at Sacre Coeur Parish in Sturgeon Falls and died March 31, 2002 in Cornwall Ontario. (My father). Married Lily Sauve in Lancaster Ontario on June 28, 1948.

Marie Precile Alice: Born September 25, 1925 at Sacre Coeur Parish in Sturgeon Falls. Married Roger Gareau on May 12, 1946 at Sacre Coeur Parish in Sturgeon Falls.

Marie Georgette Madeleine Clairette: Born April 17, 1927 at Sacre Coeur Parish in Sturgeon Falls.

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